Manorville Branch
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LIRR E51sa-4 Cannonball
Manorville Branch at Eastport 1923 Photo: James V.
Osborne Archive: Dave Keller
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Ticket from Bellport to Jamesport - 9/19/1896
Archive: Brad Phillips
The rider, from Bellport (Montauk Branch), takes the eastbound Montauk,
Amagansett or Speonk train and gets off at Eastport. At Eastport, the
rider waits for the "Greenport Scoot" heading westbound back up
to Manorville via the Manorville branch, then eastbound as the
"Scoot" takes the east leg of the wye to the Main Line and out
to Greenport, making the stop at Jamesport.
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Bob
Emery Maps of the Manorville Branch - 1949
Robert M. Emery maps
courtesy of Dave Keller archive
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MP65-66 03/1949
MP65-70 03/1949
Composite Map
Created by: Steve Lynch 06/27/07
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MP66-67 03/1949
MP67-68 03/1949
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MP68-69 03/1949
MP69-70 03/1949
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LIRR Colton-Geographicus map of 1882 zoom
of Manorville Branch
Entire LIRR map here:
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Eastport Junction
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EASTPORT,
Montauk Branch: Built: 3/1870 as “MORICHES” Station on original Sag
Harbor Branch., moved to Eastport site: 10/18/1881
New stop in service: 10/19/1881. Remodeled: 19_?
Agency still listed in "LIRR Ticket Offices open for sale of
tickets" of 9/12/1955
Agency closed: 19_? Discontinued as station stop: 10/6/58. Moved to
private location after 1963 Research: Dave Keller
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Elevated exterior view from semaphore block signal
showing connecting Manorville Branch.
PT cabin viewed from signal mast looking west up the Manorville
Branch (straight ahead) with Montauk Branch curving off to the left.
Info: Dave Keller
PT Cabin Eastport 1923
Photo: James V. Osborne Archive: Dave Keller
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Manorville Junction
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MANORVILLE, LIRR MAINLINE: APPEARS ON
TIMETABLE OF 6/14/1845 AS “ST. GEORGE’S MANOR” AND IN 1852,
SHORTENED TO “MANOR.” RAZED: 9/1869 (Per local history, the first
station agent, Seth Raynor, a patriot of the American Revolution,
painted out the “St. George’s,” leaving “Manor.”).
THE TOWN NAME CHANGED TO MANORVILLE WITH THE
OPENING OF THE POST OFFICE, BUT TIMETABLES AND LIRR DOCUMENTS RETAINED
THE NAME "MANOR" UNTIL C. 1907-1908 PHOTO OF DEPOT TAKEN IN
9/1906 SHOWS “MANOR” STATION SIGN ON SIDE OF BLDG. JUNCTION TO
EASTPORT WITH NEW BRANCH TERMINATING AT SAG HARBOR CONSTRUCTED: 1870.
2nd DEPOT BUILT: 5/1871. RAZED: 6/41 CONCRETE BLOCK
SHELTER SHED BUILT: 1941. JUNCTION AND SPUR TRACK TO MONTAUK BRANCH
CONNECTION AT EASTPORT OUT OF SVC: 12/27/49. STRUCTURE RAZED: 1968.
STILL LISTED AS STATION STOP IN ETT #1, EFF: 5/79. NO LONGER LISTED
IN ETT #2, EFF. 5/12/80. Research: Dave
Keller
1895 roundtrip excursion ticket sample from Long Island City to Manor.
Archive: Brad Phillips
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The Early Years of the Long Island Railroad
by Thomas Bayles 1969
Manorville 4/24/1847 Summer "Arrangement" timetable.
A stop here to load wood in the tender for the engines on their trip to
Greenport. |
Manor Station, Manorville - View E close-up
c.1900 Archive: Dave Keller |
Manor Station and water tank, Manorville at junction to Eastport. - View
E c.1900 Archive: Dave Keller |
Emery map 1934 Manorville - MP65 to Lanes Rd.
Archive: Dave Keller
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Emery map 1929 Manorville - Lanes Rd. to east leg of wye Archive:
Dave Keller
1929 Manorville map key Archive: Dave Keller
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Manorville Jct. Station view 9/27/1906
Archive: Dave Keller
Zoom view of 9/27/06 photo showing the station sign says
"Manor". It wasn't changed to Manorville until 1907. Research: Dave Keller
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Water Tower - Pump House Manorville as seen from the upstairs of the
trackside hotel 6/1904
Archive: Dave Keller
Manorville Jct. Station LIRR valuation photo view NW c.1921 with the
added express house, which led to Raynor Rd. being diverted.
Archive: Dave Keller
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Manorville Station rear view W 6/1934
Photo: Fred Weber Archive: Dave Keller
Note the proximity of the Eastport track to the old hotel at the left!
One of the two semaphore block signals is visible in this image. The
other is blocked by the depot. Note the "MR" unattended block station
signal mounted lower down on the Eastport track signal. The old sedan in
the center distance was the car for the block operator working "MR"
cabin, hidden by the two old trees. The semaphore block signal is
visible beyond the automobile. The watering and coaling facilities are
long gone, but between the trees you can just make out the little shanty
that appears in the forefront of my 1906 view.
Info: Dave Keller
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Manorville LIRR #253 Train #4200 blasts through the quiet and
tranquility of "Downtown" Manorville on its way to Greenport. View NW
2/1986 Photo/Archive: Jay Bendersky The
Eastport Secondary track ran right in front of the building at left
which used to be a hotel and is now a biker bar. The line pole to the
right of the train is the former location of the depot on the south side
of the tracks.
Info: Dave Keller
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"MR" CABIN PERMANENTLY O.O.S: 9/09/42 AND SIGNAL MASTS
ALL CUT OFF AT 10' ABOVE GROUND. BLOCK LIMIT SIGNAL PERMANENTLY OUT OF
SERVICE PER G.O. #1404 EFF: 6/25/48.
JUNCTION AND MAIN TRACK TO EASTPORT OUT OF SVC PER G.O. #1710 EFF:
12/27/49.)
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MR cabin and block operator James V. Osborne - Manorville
1921 (Osborne-Keller)
Manorville Station G5s #39 Railfan Extra eastbound 6/05/1955 Archive:
Dave Keller
Postal Clerk hanging the mailbag on the railroad mail crane on the west
side of Manorville station (View SE towards hotel) - 09/18/1962 Archive:
Dave Keller |
"MR" Block Signal Limit-Manorville - View E c.1947
Photo: Harold Smith Archive: Dave Morrison
The T" box, at the right, is supported by the
former Eastport branch block signal mast. Note the open switch lock
dangling from a chain.
The MR block limit signal is supported by the former Main Line block
signal mast. Full-sized masts existed side-by-side at Manorville, with
semaphore signals controlling both the Main Line (mast at the left) and
the Eastport branch (mast at the left) (1925 photographic evidence).
Both were truncated after the manned
block office was placed out of service (prior to 1941) and the
Unattended Block Station signals mounted lower down on the masts were
retained, renamed Block Limit signals.
The depot was torn down in June, 1941 and replaced by a concrete block
shelter shed which is visible beyond the "MR" signal so the image can't
be prior to June, 1941.
Look to the extreme right, under the "T" box. Tracks are curving off to
Eastport and to the left of the "T" box, the wooden diamond crossing
warning sign is still in place for that track!!!
Notice the platform lamp and post between the two masts. See how it's
set back, midway between the two tracks and not in line with the shelter
shed and distant platform lamp? This lamp was situated here to provide
joint (and minimal) platform lighting for both Main Line AND Eastport
branch passengers.
When the branch was taken out of service and the masts removed, the "T"
box was hung from the west wall of the shelter shed and "MR" Block Limit
signal was relocated further east. (Photo left)
The fact that the tracks and the block limit signal are still visible
and photographed in the summer, based upon leaves on the trees, dates it
anytime prior to June 25, 1948 when the signals were placed out of
service.
Research: Dave Keller
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Manorville Station 1968 Photo/Archive: Dave Keller |
MP15ac #168 is pulling a two-car train westbound past the newer version
of "MR" block limit signal in February, 1989. Originally located at the
Manorville station, this signal was moved 865' east of its former
location on April 3, 1950. (Jay Bendersky photo and archive) |
FA2 #609 is on the head-end of push-pull train #4203
westbound at the old, relocated "MR" block limit signal, Manorville, NY
on July 16, 1978. View is SE. (William Madden photo, Dave Keller
archive) |
Manorville's dwindling ticket sales, if any at all by the mid-1930s, caused this to be one of the earlier stations to lose its ticket agency (Shinnecock Hills closed its agency in 1932.)
By the time it was demolished in June, 1941,
Manorville the ticket agency would have been closed for some time. Traditionally, when the LIRR closed an agency, it left the depot remaining for a period of time, for passengers to wait inside. (Yaphank's agency closed in 1958 and the depot remained standing until razed in 1961.) The train crew leaving the station in the evening would be responsible to turn on the platform and station lights and the train crew arriving in the morning would be responsible to turn them off. Research:
Dave Keller
Collection: Robert Emery, SUNY Stony Brook, NY
It has been rumored that the railroad station was then
moved to inside the nearby hotel. As there was no longer any ticket agency (and freight agency and Railway Express agency) at that location, there would have been no need for the hotel to house the station as there
were no ticket sales, no agent and no clerk.
As you can see from the images (above center, right), one from 1955 and the other from 1968, the replacement depot was a quickly-put-up cement block structure. I can't see it taking very long to construct.
Now . . it's highly possible that the hotel, being so
very close to the tracks, served as a temporary WAITING ROOM for the
station stop, but ONLY for as long as it took the LIRR to clean up the
wooden depot's debris and construct this replacement shelter shed. So .
. if that WERE the case, then the hotel could have served as a waiting
room, but only for a very short period of time. And, of course, legends
do tend to grow with the telling as time passes.
Note: The 1968 image above was photographed by me a month or so before the shelter shed was torn down. Platform and shelter lights are still present in this view. The station stop last appeared in the ETT effective May, 1979. It was no longer listed in the May, 1980
ETT.4 Research: Dave Keller |
Photo: James V. Osborne 1927
Collection: Dave Keller
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Photo: James V. Osborne 1927
Collection: Dave Keller
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These shots (above left/center) are of the Manorville-Eastport branch. The only signal on the branch was installed on the north side of the Bauer St. crossing at MP66, one mile south of MP65 where MR cabin was located.
View NW towards MR and Manorville. The signal cable running along the side of the tracks connected with MR cabin one mile away and was controlled from there. Way in the distance you can just about make out the white
cross buck post for the crossing diamond for the Eastport-Manor Road crossing.
The signal was installed in 1927 and block operator James V. Osborne climbed to the top right after installation to get some nice elevated views of the branch.
He wound up getting the only known views of the branch and, by being elevated, some of the best views of the ROW and rural LI in the process.
The 2nd shot posted is looking SE into the early morning sun.
ROW and tracks straight as an arrow in each direction. Info: Dave
Keller
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H10s
#108 is pulling an eastbound freight along the Montauk branch at the
junction of the Montauk and Manorville branches at Eastport c. 1943 in
this view looking northwest directly up the Manorville branch. An
indication that this was a wartime shot (and wartime photos were very
rare because of the security policy that was strongly enforced) is the
color of the smoke box. Smoke boxes of the locomotives during the
war years were
painted a dull, dark grey. They were painted a lighter grey/graphite
after the war was over.
The locomotive is
passing the "PT" unattended block limit signals. The old
signal masts are still standing but have had their semaphore blades
removed. In the foreground is the out-of-service "PT"
cabin.
Per the G.O. dates I
have, the cabin was taken out of full-time service on January 19, 1933
and was open for summers only beginning on June 25 of that same year and
was last placed out of service on September 9, 1942. It WOULD have been
necessary for the cabin to have been in service during the
summers due to the number of trains running past this junction on their
way to the Hamptons and Montauk however, beach and Hamptons traffic was
probably significantly reduced during the war years so the cabin was
most probably no longer needed after 1942 and by the time the war ended,
the railroad probably had a notion to eliminate this junction which they
did within a few years.
Only
unattended block limit signals were used after that 1942 date. Train #12
the "Shinnecock Express" was the last train to operate
along this branch in 1946 and the unattended block limit signals were
removed on June 25, 1948 The Junction was taken out of service on
December 27, 1949 and the track swiftly torn up and sold for scrap. Why
there was a 3-year delay between the last train to run along that branch
until it was officially taken out of service by General Order #1710
remains a mystery to me. (Dave Keller archive and data)
These are the semaphore
signals when very much in use back around 1921, only looking from the
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PT Cabin Eastport - Manorville
Jct.1921 View from between Montauk branch at right and Manorville
branch at left (James V. Osborne photo / Dave Keller archive)
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PT Cabin
Eastport - Manorville
Jct. 1921 Alternate view from Montauk branch (James V. Osborne photo
/ Dave Keller archive)
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PT Cabin Block Limit Signal (BLS) put into
service on 4/25/49 (replacing the ones on the old semaphore signal
masts) and taken out of service permanently on 5/6/2006 In the distance, the tracks make the sharp curve
to the left with the former Manorville branch ROW continuing straight
ahead. Eastport 1970 Photo/Archive: Dave Keller
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Manorville Branch - Form 19s
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Train order issued at "PD" tower in Patchogue
addressed to eastbound Montauk train #4, indicating that PRR-leased K4s
#1984 was to run passenger-extra from "PW" interlocking which
was west of Pinelawn on the Main Line to Montauk, which required using
the Manorville-Eastport branch. The extra was to run ahead of train #4
from "PT" (Eastport) to Montauk. The 200-series train numbers
indicated Main Line scheduled trains. "EEE" at the end of the
order represented Supt. of Transportation E. E. Ernest. Order made
complete by block operator Gafney.
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Train order issued at "PD" tower, Patchogue, addressed to eastbound Speonk train #38 indicating that PRR-leased E3sd was to run passenger extra westbound from Montauk to Manorville. Order made complete by block operator Panevich.
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Similar train order indicating that PRR-leased K4s #5407 was to run passenger extra westbound from Montauk to Manorville. "HTF" at the end represented Supt. of Transportation H. T. Frushour. Order made complete by block operator Hawkins.
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Train order issued at "PD" tower, addressed to G53 freight engine #142 with instructions to run extra (and light) from Patchogue to Manorville. This required a reverse move at "PT" cabin in Eastport as the west leg of the wye that would have facilitated this move much easier had been taken out of service in February, 1931. Order made complete by block operator Casey.
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Wartime train order issued at "WH" (Westhampton) via "PD" in Patchogue addressed to H10s freight engine #110 to run extra (and light) from "WH" to "MR." "MR" was the block signal at the Manorville end of the Manorville-Eastport branch. "MR" cabin had been taken out of service by this time. "ELH" represented Supt. of Transportation E. L. Hofmann and the order was made complete by block operator Baldwin. It is noted that the order was relayed to Conductor Overton who received this order via telephone in a LIRR "T" box at Westhampton.
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Wartime train order issued at "PD" tower, addressed to the driver of Track Car #8632 directing the unit to run extra from "PD" to Manorville. Again, like the earlier order, this would required a reverse move at "PT" in Eastport. Order made complete by block operator
Gafney.
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Wartime train order issued at "PD" tower, addressed to westbound train #55. PRR-leased K4s #5387 is ordered to run extra from "Y" cabin (end of double track east of Sayville) to one train length east of "PT" (Eastport) to allow it to clear the switch, where it's to make a reverse move and run extra westbound up the Manorville-Eastport branch to the junction on the Main Line where it will then continue westbound to the Camp Upton branch east of Yaphank. Obviously a troop-train move. Order made complete by block operator Gafney.
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